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037: Gretchen Rubin on Mastering the Habits of Our Everyday Lives

(original air date July 2015*)

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Why can some people just wake up one day and decide to change their lives?

Why can people wake up one day and just quit smoking, or quit drinking, or stop eating sweets or processed food? Why do some people struggle with forming habits that actually make them happy?

They know they make them happier, but they still struggle doing them.

Why do so many of us know what to do, but we just aren’t making the changes in our lives?

We know what to do but we just aren’t doing it.

How do we actually change?

These questions drive me a little bit crazy. I am obsessed with trying to understand this. I think we all ask ourselves a variation of these questions in some capacity, maybe even every day. These questions led me on a quest, and that quest led me to Gretchen Rubin, the best-selling author, wife and mother of two.

I knew Gretchen already from her previous books; I read The Happiness Project years ago and I thought it was amazing. So when she came out with her newest book Better Than Before, I picked it up for myself.

I read Better Than Before: Mastering the Habits of Our Everyday Lives, and I became a woman obsessed.

I said to Gretchen, “So, I know you’re on every television channel in the world. I know you’re at the top of the charts with your own podcast. I know that you are in extreme demand right now by every media outlet known to man, but could you maybe come talk to us? Because I believe you can change everybody’s lives who listens to this show that we do together.”

Gretchen didn’t hesitate. She said yes.

This show is about how we actually create lasting change in our lives, and I hope that it is of as much value to you as my conversation with Gretchen was to me. Let me know, and you tell me:

What is one habit that you are trying to break?

What is one habit that you are trying to create?

Tell me in the comments!

*original air date July 2015. We're slowly rebuilding the show notes for episodes 001-200 which were lost in the 'Great Hack of 2020.' If you are looking for a particular episode, email us and we'll do our best to recreate them for you!


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