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327: Microdosing Therapy: the Benefits of Plant Medicine, Psychedelics, Psilocybin + More with Neurologist Dr. Maya Shetreat

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MIcrodosing Dr MAya Shetreat On air with Ella 327
DISCLAIMER: this podcast is for information and entertainment purposes only. It is not intended to prescribe or direct. Talk to your own health practitioner for guidance, or work with Dr. Maya directly.


Dr. Maya Shetreat, renowned neurologist and author, joins me to delve into the intricacies of macrodosing, microdosing, and even quantum dosing psychedelics, and the potential benefits of master plants in the treatment of physical and mental health conditions. She is answering our questions about everything from ayahuasca retreats to magic mushrooms (psilocybin) and other master plants for trauma, chronic pain, perimenopause and other mental and physical conditions, as well as for generating personal breakthroughs.  

In this episode (with timestamps):

  • Stigmatization around psychedelics (00:02:32)

  • Differentiating plant medicine and "doing drugs" (00:08:54)

  • Master Plants, psychedelics, and the distinction between different types of plant medicines (00:05:09)

  • How psychedelics work in the body and brain (00:13:46)

  • Types of dosing (00:19:37)

  • The potential benefits of mushrooms for addiction, traumatic brain injury, PTSD (00:20:50)

  • Risks of unsupervised use (00:21:25) 

  • Legalization and decriminalization (00:22:59)

  • Microdosing and perimenopause (00:24:49)

  • Treating depression, anxiety, chronic pain, and autoimmune disorders (00:29:13)

  • Plant medicine for chronic pain (00:30:27)

  • Quantum dosing and vibrational transmission (00:36:12)

  • The potential risks of plant medicine, the importance of protection, and setting oneself up for a successful experience (00:40:12)

  • The potential of plant medicines in transforming addiction  (00:42:06)

  • Risks and considerations (00:43:28)


The Science and Safety of Psychedelics

Psychedelics have been a topic of controversy for decades, but recently the scientific community has been fighting hard to freely explore their potential therapeutic benefits. Dr. Maya and I discussed the various dosing methods, including macro dosing, microdosing, and quantum dosing, and how they can be used to treat conditions like depression, PTSD, anorexia, and addiction.

The Profound Experience of Macro-dosing

Macro dosing involves a significant, immersive experience with psychedelics that can last several hours. Dr. Maya explained that this type of dosing requires the individual to be offline and in a supportive environment, such as ayahuasca retreats or guided psychedelic journeys. The profound insights and emotional release that come from these experiences are often associated with therapeutic benefits. However, due to legal restrictions, macro dosing has been the focus of many research studies, emphasizing the need for proper preparation, support, and integration.

The Importance of Respect and Reverence

Approaching psychedelics with respect and reverence is crucial, especially when it comes to macro-dosing. These deep and transformative experiences can significantly impact an individual's mental and emotional well-being. Dr. Maya and I talked about the importance of education and finding a good mentor or guide when exploring plant medicine. Listening to red flags and ensuring support before, during, and after the experience is vital to avoid retraumatization.

Plant Medicine and Addiction

Dr. Maya shared that individuals in sobriety might benefit from quantum dosing, which is alcohol-free and designed to prevent triggering addictive behaviors.

Who Should Steer Clear?

Not everyone should delve into plant medicine. Dr. Maya says that individuals with psychosis or a family history of psychosis are most at risk. She advised caution with large doses and emphasized the importance of professional support. Additionally, certain physical conditions may increase risks depending on the plant medicine used.

Breaking the Stigma: Plant Medicine for the Mainstream

Contrary to the perception of plant medicine as "fringe," Dr. Maya shares that many of her clients are medical professionals and high-functioning individuals seeking to address internal suffering and trauma. She shared her personal experience of how plant medicine changed her own life's trajectory.

Educational Resources and Programs

Dr. Maya offers programs for those interested in psychedelics, including a psychedelic-informed practitioner training program. Her book, The Master Plant Experience is an outstanding primer for anyone interested in learning more.


the master plant experience dr maya shetreat

Dr. Maya Shetreat is a pediatric and adult neurologist who believes we can inhabit more than one identity. She has spoken around the world and been featured in the New York Times, NPR and Dr. Oz - and she also listens and talks to plants every day. She is a mystic and ancient astrologer who is grounded in mitochondria, the microbiome and mycelial science. She is an herbalist, artist, ceremonialist, urban farmer, and forager. She is the author of two books, The Master Plant Experience: The Science, Safety, and Sacred Ceremony of Psychedelics (2023) and The Dirt Cure (2016) which has been translated into 10 languages.

Dr. Maya is an expert in many things and also always endeavors to remain a beginner.

Dr. Maya created Quantum Drops, also known as Ceremony in a Bottle, a vibrational psychedelic Master Plant product that is legal, safe and deeply transformative. She is the founder of the Terrain Institute, where she offers free ceremonies, microdosing coaching, and Portal, a training for those who want to become psychedelic-informed professionals.

Preview the first 3 chapters of The Master Plant Experience here!


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